tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2932765464128103640.post8424217156325356405..comments2024-02-15T17:04:14.226+01:00Comments on Jane Is The One: why I, that am not shap'd for sportive tricksjanestheonehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17617250693471034197noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2932765464128103640.post-31987405813355636972011-07-01T17:18:34.468+02:002011-07-01T17:18:34.468+02:00And you talk about 'going to town' - when ...And you talk about 'going to town' - when you mean London.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2932765464128103640.post-64394786018436410132011-07-01T13:05:07.031+02:002011-07-01T13:05:07.031+02:00..and if you are really old-fashioned and posh, do.....and if you are really old-fashioned and posh, dont you just talk about "going up". Everybody will assume it is one of the older Oxbridge colleges.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2932765464128103640.post-25803757183090267962011-07-01T00:39:39.667+02:002011-07-01T00:39:39.667+02:00Jane is not a motor car in a parking lot , so sto...Jane is not a motor car in a parking lot , so stop telling her to 'move on'.<br /><br />Very few of her posts are about Reading -- but many are about reading.<br /><br />Why not READ her blog before making trite and ill-informed comments? In fact, why not READ -- full stop?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2932765464128103640.post-91644203194873225882011-06-30T21:11:16.984+02:002011-06-30T21:11:16.984+02:00....and if you are rather old and very posh, you s.......and if you are rather old and very posh, you say "The Varsity", without specifying which one of the two it was.Augustus Carpnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2932765464128103640.post-76578827956982906912011-06-30T17:38:41.726+02:002011-06-30T17:38:41.726+02:00Richard III is a play to be re-interpreted for eac...Richard III is a play to be re-interpreted for each time it's shown as it remains very relevant. <br /><br />The Ian McKellan film is a wonderful thing and well worth finding.<br /><br />I'm glad to see a blog post about something other that a certain town in England. Perhaps you are starting to move on.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2932765464128103640.post-53097798162649956822011-06-30T17:33:20.564+02:002011-06-30T17:33:20.564+02:00It is. I went to university in the 1970s and I ca...It is. I went to university in the 1970s and I cannot imagine ever saying "uni". My son, born in the eighties, says "college". My daughter, born in the late seventies, referred to it by the place name, as did her friends from there.janestheonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17617250693471034197noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2932765464128103640.post-27338538534879273452011-06-30T17:08:22.898+02:002011-06-30T17:08:22.898+02:00The people who say 'uni' are generally tho...The people who say 'uni' are generally those born in the seventies.<br /><br />Those who WENT in the seventies would not be seen dead saying it -- those born in the eighties tend to say 'college' - as do those born in the twenties. Funny that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2932765464128103640.post-92210272387401801912011-06-30T16:40:58.900+02:002011-06-30T16:40:58.900+02:00Dermot I only said the Josephine Tey book was inte...Dermot I only said the Josephine Tey book was interesting, I didn't cite it in support of any thesis at all. If you are a historian I would expect more intellectual rigour than that from you, and frankly I would even if you are not. Oh and a big part of the interest was the social history of the 1950s, as I am sure you will agree from your own reading of the book. Thanks for reading. Oh and do people really say "uni"?janestheonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17617250693471034197noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2932765464128103640.post-64156530663632074042011-06-30T15:15:28.165+02:002011-06-30T15:15:28.165+02:00I do not like Ian McKellan AT ALL now -- he became...I do not like Ian McKellan AT ALL now -- he became stagey and preachey after John Major made him the patron saint of Stonewall and invited him to tea at No 10. McKellan -- having lived so long in the closet that he had virtually added an annexe, became nastily holier than thou as soon as he finally came out --- and out Tatchelled Peter in insisting that evrybody had to vacate their closets PRONTO.<br /><br />Well - fine for Ian, and I am glad that he is glad to be gay. But not everybody wants to leave their closet - some like it and have even decorated it with ducks swimming up the wall. And why should they not, if that is their choice? It is a free world, Ian, isn't it? <br /><br />His acting has gone off - his Godot was excrable and so was his recent Lear. Not to mention his damey panto stints and Coronation Street outings. However, I am fully prepared to believe that he was fab in the Richard film ( and would like to see it), because he was also fab in an old film of Macebth with Judi Dench as Lady M. Very compelling and Nazi theme. <br />Oddly enough, he was also fab playing the rabidly hetrosexual John Profumo ( Jack), in the film Scandal -- with the tremendous Joanne Whalley Kilmer as Christine, the brill Bridget Fonda as Mandy Rice Davies and the excellent John Hurt as Stephen Ward. McKellan was just great as Profumo.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2932765464128103640.post-2775099479363833522011-06-30T14:14:20.385+02:002011-06-30T14:14:20.385+02:00That you should quote a historical novelist, rathe...That you should quote a historical novelist, rather than a historian, in support of the 'Richard was innocent' thesis probably says all you need to know about its robustness.<br /><br />Drawing on my long-gone study of Richard at Uni (in the History, not the Eng. Lit department), the obvious issues of motive, opportunity and previous track record mean that there is no more plausible candidate for having ensured his nephews disappeared.Dermot Yuillehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12671831463826532702noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2932765464128103640.post-58343288403716802682011-06-30T13:42:28.875+02:002011-06-30T13:42:28.875+02:00It got a rave review in the Times this morning, fw...It got a rave review in the Times this morning, fwiw. Unfortunately, I have to go and see "Punch and Judy" or whatever it is called at the National tomorrow night - Richard III at the Old Vic sounds a lot more interesting.Augustus Carpnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2932765464128103640.post-73934270212983666242011-06-30T13:01:16.646+02:002011-06-30T13:01:16.646+02:00I have been trying to get a copy of the Ian McKell...I have been trying to get a copy of the Ian McKellan version of Richard III for ages but it has been "deleted" so the only copies on Amazon are about £25 now.<br /><br />It's a great film, especially the end when he is falling in slow motion into the fire.<br /><br /><br />EdEdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02587506120109416263noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2932765464128103640.post-31140917570047503592011-06-30T12:55:09.762+02:002011-06-30T12:55:09.762+02:00Lady Anne's behaviour is puzzling, but not ine...Lady Anne's behaviour is puzzling, but not inexplicable. First there is the dramatic force of necessity - she has already cursed any woman who marries the Duke of Gloucester, and that that woman should be herself carries forward the theme of tragic inevitabilty.<br />Second, Richard is quite the orator, and not necessarily ugly - Ian McKellen certainly isn't, and as you say, his version is compelling. I saw it live and terrified myself by wanting to salute and chant "Amen" as he is announced King - just before his hand rises in a familiar straight-arm salute. My little Nuremberg.<br />Third, there is the psychological attraction (dangerous ground here) that victims of abuse sometimes feel toward their abuser. She has already refused to kill Richard, or even urge him to suicide, despite invitations. Playing her as a junkie seems interesting here - a similar attraction/self-harm dynamic is a constant of addictive behaviour.Jonnynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2932765464128103640.post-89581416081651546932011-06-30T12:53:46.952+02:002011-06-30T12:53:46.952+02:00How amazing that you should have posted on this! I...How amazing that you should have posted on this! I have just emailed my theatre-going friend to say that I am very pleased that we decided to give this production a miss.<br /><br />We started going to the Bridge Project plays at The Old Vic ( of which this is one) in 2010.The Cherry Orchard and The Winters' Tale - both with Rebecca Hall and Simon Russell Beale - were excellent.<br />But As You Like It, with Juliet Rylance - was total crap - to the extent that we cancelled our pre-booked tickets to The Tempest. When this came up, we agonised - but decided to give it a miss. Sam Mendes has lost the plot re the Bridge Project and if you want to know just how - then read today's review of Richard by Quentin Letts in The Daily Mail.<br />I have gone off Kevin Spacey - who seems to me to have failed to scale his American Beauty heights in subsequent outings. ( Oh what a falling off was there etc). Olivier remains the definitive Richard - as he remains the definitive Hamelt , Othello, Coriolanus and Archie Rice.<br /> Fiona Shaw played Richard 11 - as a woman, of course. I expect she will get round to Richard 111 - it seems in line with the other sort of things she does - such as Mother Courage.Incidentally, the MP for Ham and High, Glenda Jackson was the definitive Mother Courage.Glenda was also the definitive Gudrun in Women in Love. But I am not keen on Fiona Shaw. Nor am I that keen on Richard 111. The best political play is King Lear - also the best domestic tragedy and just about the best everything else.<br /><br />What need one? is still the most chilling phrase in Eng lit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2932765464128103640.post-72616909555226907192011-06-30T12:42:07.068+02:002011-06-30T12:42:07.068+02:00Seana McKenna is playing Richard III at Stratford ...Seana McKenna is playing Richard III at Stratford this summer.Jonnynoreply@blogger.com